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Executive Interviews: Interview with Martin Lindstrom on Marketing in a Downturn
July 2009 - By Dr. Nagendra V Chowdary


Martin Lindstrom
CEO and Chairman of the LINDSTROM company and the Chairman of BUYOLOGY INC (New York) and BRAND sense Agency (London).


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    So companies are trying to find the triggers they have to pull in order to make people feel comfortable about spendingmoney. The best example of that was Hyundai, which said you can return your car within a year if you lose your job and get a refund. That’s a major change you will see in marketing. And then you will see companies start to build the very functional, practical dimensions of their brands. If you take Louis Vuitton as an example, they will say, “In the future, when you buy a Louis Vuitton bag, it’s not just the most fashionable bag on themarket, it also has a two-inone dimension so you can turn it inside out, and it’s red today and black tomorrow. You can use the bag both in the evening and the morning, and you don’t have to buy a bag for four years because it has two-color dimensions to it.”

    Also, companies will start to talk about the past rather than the future. We’re seeing that happening a lot with brands now. They’re saying, “Hey, if you talk about the past, people feel safe.” For instance, I went on a summer holiday, and it was a disastrous holiday. The weather was crap, the food was bad and the hotel was bad. But when you look at the photos from that holiday two years later, you kind of forget all the bad memories you had. That’s exactly what’s happening in our minds. Companies will start to push the past more than the future, because we feel kind of warm and soft for the past, and trust the past a lot more. Because brands are all about trust, they’re going to push that dimension a lot more.

    That’s exactly what Louis Vuitton is doing. Take any of the latest Louis Vuitton ads they’re running right now: They’re actually promoting various actors who are not hot anymore. They’re putting them in settings which are fromthe 1960s, the 1950s, and basically you feel you are buying the past.

  • You blew up $7 mn on the largest neuromarketing research project in the world. And this project was definitely the backbone of Buyology. Kindly elaborate on this project.
    I wanted to create a study that big, that solid and that comprehensive that its findings would be taken serious by everyone – here are a few words on the study: We decided to employ two of the tens of technologies or techniques available to neuromarketing. Just like any research field, there are a number of approaches which neuromarketing can make to any given hypothesis. The unusual factor about Buyology was that we used two technologies from the raft of methods available to us. Other neuro marketing studies might have adopted just one. But we employed two for the very simple reason that the differing technologies give us different windows, and varying perspectives, from which the same lines of inquiry can be considered.

    Neuroscientific methodologies give accurate views on the brain, but changing angles can alter the interpretations that may be made of that data. Buyology is the first neuromarketing study to use two rather than just one approach. This increased the accuracy of results. Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI) was one of the two technologies we used. fMRI is considered to be the most sophisticated brain-scanning technology available. The machinery works by using magnetic resonance to detect and measure oxygen levels in the blood stream. Higher oxygen levels at certain places in the brain indicate activity. This gives graphic evidence of the parts of the brain being activated by the given stimuli. Because we know something of the functions of the brain’s many regions, neuroscientists are able to interpret this activity. fMRI is 100% safe and non-invasive. But it is very expensive. It costs around $3,000-4,000 to scan each subject and this amounts again to have the results neuroscienti-fically interpreted. For this reason, most studies before Buyology have involved small sample group – less than 30 people in each. Buyology broke new ground by scanning the brains of over 2,000 volunteers, across several countries, and enabling the interpretation and comparison of a substantial data bank of results. There’s an ongoing discussion between neuroscientists about sample size. Some researchers think a small sample size produces valid results which is true, depending on the aims of the research. Other researchers favor a big testing base. Buyology took both sides of the argument into account by involving 100 volunteers in the fMRI testing, and 1900 in the SST work.

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