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Executive Interviews: Interview with Margarethe F Wiersema on The Making of a CEO
January 2009 - By Dr. Nagendra V Chowdary


Dr. Margarethe F Wiersema
Dean’s Professorship in Strategic Management at The Paul Merage School of Business, University of California


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  • What according to you should be the minimum qualifications and qualities for someone to be appointed as a CEO? Will the changes be based on the size of the company, nature of the industry that the company operates in, the environment that it operates in, the domicile status of the company (domestic/MNC), etc?
    I don’t really think you can specify a set of minimum qualifications for the CEO of a company. It obviously would depend to a large degree on the nature of the job, the organization, and the competitive environment that the company competes in.

    Even with the same organization, the qualities of a CEO may need to change over time to deal with different circumstances. At times, companies need to undergo change and the type of individual that can best lead that change may have very different qualities than a CEO during more stable times. Certainly, the type of company (e.g. publicly traded or not; global in scope or local; single business or multi; family owned or investor held; stable or dynamic industry; technology driven or not, etc….) will in large part drive the qualifications needed in the CEO. As a result, you cannot really identify what constitutes an “ideal” set of characteristics of background for a CEO. However, having said that, one of the key requirements of a CEO is to be to quickly make sense of the competitive environment in which the company operates in and the skills and capabilities within the company. The CEO is in charge of setting the strategic direction of the company and in that capacity it is essential that he or she guides the company to an appropriate strategy given the environment and the skills residing within the company. Thus, being an astute listener, and having an analytical perspective can assist greatly with assessing the situation and grasping the issues that are of fundamental importance.

  • Is it better to promote a person from within the organization to the post of CEO or is it better to hire an outsider as the CEO? Is there any evidence supporting either of these perspectives? Under what circumstances do you think it makes sense to adopt each of these policies? For instance, GE’s CEOs are always chosen from the internal candidates, while many other companies hire an outsider. Are there any patterns that you have observed over the last few decades across several major global companies?
    This is a very topical question given that the boards of public companies in the US and Europe are increasingly selecting outsiders as replacement CEOs when the prior CEO leaves or is fired. The increasing reliance on outsiders which now represents 80% of new CEO appointments after a CEO dismissal, sends a clear message to the investment community—that the board not only believes the prior CEO was not the right person to lead the company, but that a break from the past is needed and therefore the boards have opted for the selection of a CEO from outside the company.

  • We notice that in certain companies, after the founder CEO has relinquished the top job in favor of a new CEO, the company falters in all the perceptible areas of performance as it happened with NIKE, Southwest Airlines, Starbucks, etc. Why do you think it happens that way? Or is it bound to happen this way? What’s your reading into this phenomenon? How do you characterize such occurrences?
    Taking over after a founder CEO steps down is never an easy job. In many circumstances, the transition to the first non-founder CEO occurs because the firmis beginning to struggle with competition or is facing a change in competitive circumstances. Thus, the new CEO inherits a situation that is not of his doing. Bob Nardelli was the first non-founder CEO of Home Depot and was subsequently fired. However, the competitive dynamics of the industry had changed considerably and the investment community had already raised serious concerns regarding the decline in Home Depot’s historic profit growth prior to his appointment. The board actively recruited Nardelli because they saw the writing on the wall. For organizations to change and adapt to is never an easy task and a new CEO is often brought in to do just that. When the transition does not go smoothly, inevitably the CEO will be held accountable.

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