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Executive Interviews: Interview with Nirmalya Kumar on Private Labels
April 2008 - By Dr. Nagendra V Chowdary


Nirmalya Kumar
Professor of marketing,
Faculty Director for Executive Education,
Director of Centre for Marketing,
Co-Director of Aditya Birla India Centre at London Business School.

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  • Do you think private labels would be attracting the same kind of crowd as the premium brand/ number one brand?
    Again we are talking of premium brand or number one brand. Premium brand is different from number one brand. Let us say the premium brand.

    All data shows the poorer the customer is, the more likely they buy premium brands. You know why, they want to feel rich. Rich person knows I don't need to prove to anybody that I am rich. In fact, we have found something very interesting, people who shop at Wal-Mart belong to high

    income per capita than the average of the country. Why? Because rich people do not need to prove to other people, by buying the premium brand. On the other hand, poor people want to buy premium brands to show that they are rich. Poor people are always more brand conscious than rich.

    The other phenomenon is education. Themore educated you are, the more likely you buy private labels because you can make independent quality assumptions and you don't need the symbolic crutch of the brand.

  • When we look at the evolution part, you find growth so much in Europe vis-à-vis rest of the world. Do you see any specific reason for it?
    Yes, it's retail consolidation. Retail in Europe is highly consolidated. For example Tesco's market share in UK is more than 20%. Migros market share in Switzerland is more than 20%. When you are the 20% of the market you can do whatever you want and you can get best plan of the game that is what we have shown in the book chapter 4 or 5 that premium Tesco brand cheese, Tesco brand orange juice, Tesco brand chocolates sells more than Craft cheese, more than Tropicana orange juice and more than Cadbury's. Tesco's chocolate sells for 50% higher that Cadbury's chocolate in price. That is enough to show it in the premium brand. A Tesco's finest chocolate sells at 50% price premium over the Cadbury's. A Tesco's finest orange juice sells over the price premium of Tropicana orange juice. A Tesco's finest yogurt sells for a price premium over all of the big brands. That is incredible. So when these people are able to get price premium, why price reduction.

  • When you look at Asia especially may be Japan where Wal-Mart is struggling for lot many years and in China may be making about just in roads now. Do you see that kind of growth happening?
    Japan private label is growing very fast and has achieved quite a mass.

  • Is it that one reason why Wal- Mart is not doing well?
    No, Wal-Mart's reason is different. The reasons are retail is the game of skill. If you don't have skill you are not going to be there.
    But Japan is supposed to be the second biggest retail market.

    Wal-Mart, itself does not have skill. As a retailer you need to have skill because if you have strategy in retail based on price, you have to have skill on market. Because if you don't have skill your cost cannot be lower than your competitors and you can't make price strategy. So challenge therefore is to get the skilled.

  • What happens to lets say China.
    China is a nascent market right now. Everybody is competing in China now, trying to get share of the market. China's private label is small like India.

  • What if people misunderstand private labels as knockoffs?
    A lot of private labels are knockoffs. But the thing is that traditional private labels are cheaper, but at the same quality, almost. But now the new private labels are all about the same quality and cheaper or better quality and cheaper.

  • If you look at the Indian retailing industry may be in last 4 to 5 years, when reliance and other people has taken off, howdo you see themwhen compared to rest of the world?
    They are 20 years behind right now. So, to develop good private labels for them would take 10 to 20 years. But sure itwill happen. Twenty years from nowwewill be talking about the same problems in India, no doubt.

  • One recent thing that has happened in India is, almost one year later it seems reliance has taken almost a U-turn. Reliance fresh, now its getting into general merchandising do you see any problems there?
    I do not know anything about their format. But, all I can say about retailing in India is there will be multiple formats and multiple players. Retail is never winner taken all the game.

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