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Executive Interviews: Interview with K Ramesh on Management Guru
October 2010 - By Dr. Nagendra V Chowdary


K Ramesh
K Ramesh
Professor of Accounting,
Jones Graduate School of Business
Rice University



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  • It is often noticed that several such lists (Wall Street Journal's world's most influential business thinkers, Fortune's world's best gurus in strategy, etc) are dominated by North Americans, with abysmal representations either from Europe or Asia? What explains this polarization?
    In some sense, it is what it is. The various lists are based on different methodologies that could lead to different results. For instance, the Wall Street Journal's ranking apparently follows the methodology developed by Richard Posner. He received a lot of criticism for his methodology, but he explains his choice of methodology as follows:

    "It's been assumed despite my disclaimers that I was attempting to create a new order of merit. Actually I was just trying to create an appropriate sample for a statistical investigation." Posner was more interested in doing statistical analysis to see whether, for example, the number of academic citations is correlated with someone being considered a public intellectual based on media coverage. He also wanted to see whether age, gender, race, etc., were correlated with public intellectual status.

    Regardless of the merits of the approaches, the Wall Street Journal ranking is determined by the chosen methodology, similar to any other list. I understand that the compilers of the WSJ list started with the 110 business gurus from the book "What's the Big Idea?" and added names of others who had since gained a sizeable following. Then, the final list was prepared by summing ranks based on Google hits, references in Lexis/ Nexis, and citations in academic publications. Without fully understanding the selection process at each stage of the ranking methodology, it is hard to explain why the list was dominated by one or other groups of individuals, assuming it did. At the end of the day, Darwinism will take over and rankings that are viewed as more credible should survive.

  • Now turning to your teaching, you have developed a course on corporate governance that seems to integrate academic research and practical thinking, and furthermore, puts in forefront the key role of accounting information in management leadership. How important is the connection from accounting to governance to management leadership? What tools do you use to highlight this link when reaching out to business executives and professionals?
    My graduate course is all about the economics of financial reporting. An important focus of my course is to understand how accounting has evolved over the years to be a key element of corporate governance. There is extensive academic thought and research on the role of accounting as a governance mechanism, and of course, we periodically hear about major corporate governance failures, so there are many real-life cases to study. My course integrates the two by linking academic thought and research to understand past governance failures, and possibly, to guard against future ones. Several years ago when I was in the process of assembling the framework for my course based on the works of Jensen, Meckling, and others, I came across ITC's website2 which included concepts that are very similar to what I had been using to develop the framework. I now refer to ITC's website as I discuss the framework in my course, although I organize and discuss the elements of corporate governance somewhat differently. The rest of the course expands on this framework and goes through an elaboration of the role of accounting in voluntary (external and internal) and mandatory governance. An important message that I try to deliver to my students is that accounting numbers don't come from accounting rules, company spreadsheets or SAP systems; they come from people. Consequently, understanding the incentives of management and employees is sine qua non to ensuring that accounting systems and reports are built for long-run shareholder maximization. To tie all this together, I have developed a corporate governance fitness test (Exhibit) that I give to graduate students and business professionals as a way to qualitatively assess their own organization's governance.

  • You have had the rare experience of taking a hiatus from the academic world to engage in full-time economic consulting to multinational corporations, international law firms, and global professional services firms. What academic thinking were you able to bring to the economic consulting world? Conversely, how did this experience influence your academic agenda? Was this a two-way street?

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